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Post by BWitcher on May 5, 2008 23:01:01 GMT
[ The heat 11 exclusion i feel was justified as he locked up right in front of david causing our riders to collide. Not intentional but you couldn't exclude howe or heffers. The other im not sure about. Don't really hold much sympathy with him anyway after some of the coventry riders antics down here over the years.
Agree about heat 2 though, shocking.[/quote]
Mate... I have no idea what race you were watching.
How can you lock up in front of someone if you are on the OUTSIDE and the other rider is on the INSIDE.. You are going out towards the fence.. and the other rider is cutting back into towards the kerb?
Oh.. and add that you are 5 metres clear also.
David himself explained this quite clearly a few weeks back, I think on the BSF. When he tries that manouver of going out wide and cutting back for the inside he has to scrub off all his speed, which he did. David also said that if a rider is following in close proximity it is dangerous as there is a chance of him running into you. That is exactly what happened. Schlein was totally irrelevant to the entire situation. David was cutting back for the pass, Christian was on the inside and they collided. Period.
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Post by hammo on May 5, 2008 23:17:08 GMT
A bit of a biased look at things there Mr Wulf. How on earth you can blame Schlein for Heat 11 is beyond me. Schlein lifted a little but was on the outside, about 5 metres ahead! David had gone in wide, was doing his usual cut back to turn 2, unfortunately Christian was there and Christian clipped Davids back wheel. Absolutely nothing at all to do with Schlein. The earlier race Schlein should also not have been excluded. He was ahead of Iversen, got a little out of shape, nothing major. Iversen slid off. No contact at all. I can fully understand his anger! For Wolves, we just gave them too much of a start. I think Howe's injury and Schleins crazy exclusions pretty much evened things out. We lost the match in Heat 2 which was truly awful. The heat 11 exclusion i feel was justified as he locked up right in front of david causing our riders to collide. Not intentional but you couldn't exclude howe or heffers. The other im not sure about. Don't really hold much sympathy with him anyway after some of the coventry riders antics down here over the years. Agree about heat 2 though, shocking. Cant agree whatsoever , even the exclusion in heat 5 was a 50/50 in my opinion !!
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Post by stevebrum on May 6, 2008 7:27:47 GMT
50/50 on my side too
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Post by BWitcher on May 6, 2008 10:30:14 GMT
Steve. Hammo is saying that Heat 5 was 50/50 to him, Heat 11 definately not Schleins fault.
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Post by del on May 6, 2008 13:58:18 GMT
schlein may have been unlucky in heat 11 he was fortunate not to get excluded in heat 1 when he turned left across freddie collided and shed a chain referee ordered all four back. in the rerun of heat 5 niels and burza collide niels drops a chain race allowed to continue that lost point cost us a draw. the first four heats were costly heat leaders not at the races and heat 2 disgraceful.
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Post by BWitcher on May 6, 2008 15:45:18 GMT
To settle all debate, Heat 11 is now available to view online.
Now all can see just how ridiculous the decision to exclude Schlein really was!
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Post by MrwulfAndrew™ on May 6, 2008 16:43:57 GMT
To settle all debate, Heat 11 is now available to view online. Now all can see just how ridiculous the decision to exclude Schlein really was! That provides a better angle and after looking at the video you are indeed correct bwitcher. However he is a spoon so i have no sympathy with him particulary given the abuse he dished out. Just curious though, who would you have excluded?
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Post by BWitcher on May 6, 2008 19:38:54 GMT
Who 'should' have been excluded is a far tougher call, but I would have to say David.
Christian was riding the inside and David cut back in across him, nothing Christian could do.
To perform that manouver as David does he has to turn so sharply he almost stops, hence Christian going into him. Very unfortunate accident though and obviously no intent on either part.
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Post by stevebrum on May 6, 2008 20:25:41 GMT
To settle all debate, Heat 11 is now available to view online. Now all can see just how ridiculous the decision to exclude Schlein really was! wheres the link, cant find it?!
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Post by SamuelE on May 8, 2008 19:43:36 GMT
To settle all debate, Heat 11 is now available to view online. Now all can see just how ridiculous the decision to exclude Schlein really was! wheres the link, cant find it?! It's on the Coventry website, coventrymotorspeedway.com. I've just watched it. Have to say, if a Wolves rider had been excluded under the same circumstances as Schlein, I would have been incredibly p*ssed off. A very, very harsh exclusion - apart from the fact that he rides for Coventry.
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Post by Mr X on May 8, 2008 19:48:52 GMT
I read David Howe's post on the Wolves v Cov thread on the BSF where he said it was the wrong decision as his fall was nothing to do with Schlein.
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Post by stevebrum on May 8, 2008 19:52:17 GMT
totally clears that up then dont you think?!
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Post by Mr Crutch on May 17, 2008 15:00:58 GMT
Heat 11 Schlein exclusion may of been harse but there was NO need for the Reaction he gave IN FRONT of young Children, How come a Coventry Rider DOESN'T get Fined???
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